Or do I miss having a man in my life? I’m not sure. If I do just miss having a man in my life, does that make me ‘one of those women who needs to a man to make her happy’? and if it does, is that a bad thing?
We’re supposed to be happy without a man in our lives aren’t we? If we meet someone new we’re supposed to say offhandedly “Oh, I am totally happy being alone, I love my lifestyle you know, I’m independent. If someone came along, that would be great but it’s not the be all and end all”. Well, I’ve said that, or something along those lines anyway, and at the time I actually think I believed it – but maybe it’s just what I wanted to believe.
I’ve been thinking about D a lot, and I don’t know whether I actually miss him or I’m just feeling lonely, craving a bit of human contact, someone to look at me in that way, that comforting ‘I’m here, I understand you, everything’s ok’ way. I can honestly say that only 2 of the men I have been with really ‘got me’, there’s something to be said for having someone who you can communicate with by just a look across a room, or a touch on your arm or the small of your back, or a tender laugh at one your little idiosyncrasies, someone who knows the words you need to hear.
Actually there’s a lot to be said for that.
I’ve asked myself this question quite a lot lately “Do you only get over someone when you meet someone else who takes their place?” I don’t know the answer. I think it was part of the reason I realised I wasn’t into M3 – I felt it one night when someone mentioned D in conversation, that feeling like the wind has just been knocked out of you, everything kind of goes into slow mo and you can’t seem to comprehend what’s going on around you. Yeah, that feeling. I knew right then that M3 wasn’t going to last much longer, I mean if I was really into him, simply hearing D’s name shouldn’t affect me in that way – but it did.
Maybe when you break up with someone, you have that lingering fear of “maybe I won’t find someone else” – so you cling to the memory of that person, believing you still have feelings for them, romanticising your relationship, until you meet someone else who sparks a new feeling. Fuck - what if I never meet anyone that sparks that feeling, what if noone I meet helps to blank out those feelings for him? Is that being dramatic?
It would be a little bit of a twist of fate actually, when I left S and he was really upset (he was 27 to my 37) I consoled him by saying “you will meet someone else, I know it feels like you never will right now, but trust me, I don’t know anyone who is still pining for someone after a couple of years, you will get over me, I promise”. Well he did, he was married within 2 years – but what if the twist of fate is that I never get over my feelings for D.
I got together with D about 2 years after that relationship with S ended – 2 years of therapy and letting my hair down so to speak. I wonder if one of the reasons that I had such strong feelings for D was because he was my first relationship after I had been in therapy. During the time that I was with him – I was my ‘best & happiest self ever’ – he got the best ‘me’ that there’s ever been. And trust me, there have been a lot of different me’s. And because he’d already known me for a long time before we got together, he knew my history it was comforting, thinking on it now, part of why I was the best me was because I could be myself with him, utterly & completely – that’s a great feeling. I wasn’t myself with S – I was a toned down version of me, I became the person that I thought he wanted me to be, I lost myself.
My past is kinda crazy & there’s alot to it, there’s parts of it that I don’t feel great about, there’s parts of it that I’m not particularly proud of. There’s parts of it that are hard to explain & there’s stuff that I would prefer not to revisit – but D knew it all, there were no questions or explanations or toned down versions required – no picking out the bits that I thought would be acceptable to someone and only sharing those bits. The thing about only sharing bits is, that after a while it becomes clearer that there are a few dots that need to be connected – unconnected dots, just hanging there in the air, like one of those thought bubbles over his head, and my head for that matter.
That’s another reason it wouldn’t work with M3, he was inquisitive – he wanted to know stuff, as I imagine a lot of new partners would, but I don’t like explaining my life, it’s hard work – it made me tired. S wasn’t interested in my past too much, he didn’t ask a lot of questions, but as time went on I think he joined some of the dots in his own mind, and often what someone imagines, is more sinister than the reality. I definitely glossed over some stuff at the beginning of my relationship with S, but that was less than a year after I lost B … my head wasn’t on straight, but I didn’t know that at the time. I submerged myself into becoming what I thought S wanted me to be.
Here’s the thing, after having all weekend to think about it, I really don’t know the answer to my original question. What I do know is that I couldn’t be bothered going through that ‘getting to know you’ phase with someone new right now or even in 10 years time for that matter. Maybe I’m just tired and a little bit jaded, I guess 22 years of relationships and 18 years of parenting can do that to a person. I’m hoping that Man Ban 2010 might give me time to recharge my emotional batteries, and hopefully I will be able to answer the question with
“I miss having a man in my life, but you do get over someone, even when there is no-one to take their place”

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I have finally read this, and honestly I thought for a moment it was after that ‘Sunday’. Now I realise that it was before, and I understand so much more about what I witnessed and heard.
I remember seeing your face on that Sunday, when you finally came back to us. You were very tense. It took a while for you to relax somewhat and enjoy the group around you.
In my mind (and I really hope this makes sense!)this blog completely encompasses everything I saw on your face, and everything you said to me on our walk home.
Good on you for writing this beautiful piece, because there a thousands of women that have had that same face, and know how to express it or know that they can take comfort knowing its completely okto feel such things.
Inspiring
xxEM
Thanks hun xoxo
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This definitely resonates with me too…
Recently I went on a few dates with a guy who by all accounts was pretty nice. Unfortunately I didn’t really feel that ‘spark’ but I persevered to three dates before I ended it. And mostly, the thoughts running through my head were ‘am I just trying to replace (my) D’ because he has now moved on and even after 8 months I still wonder if I’m yearning for HIM or for someone… it’s hard…
Fantastic post TRS – and some amazing comments and stories. The bravery of some of you out there leaves me a bit speechless – you are incredible women and mothers.
Damn it! I really am fumbling for words…just couldn’t read all of your stories without saying something along the lines of ‘I hate that you’ve suffered..I love your strength…keep on facing up to every day with the hope that it will bring what you deserve’.
xoxo
TRS – I just HAVE to point out that on one post you have SEVENTY comments and on this one, well into the FORTIES!!
…And you freakin’ JUST started this blog, that’s amazing!!
Congrats – you’re a natural!! xx
Thanks Georgie – I know, it seems we love rants and talking about love !! Not feeling any pressure here – nup none at all ; – )
Best post so far – there isn’t a single person who can’t relate to something in this, me included.
I still have that one guy I ache for everytime his name gets brought up in conversation and I wonder if it will ever go away, even though I’ve had two (better) relationships since. Part of me assumes it must be because we didn’t part on totally clear terms or with a reason that I’m happy with..
Thanks for sharing TRS
Oh my God – I think you are reading my mind! I have been having these exact thoughts the last week. Will I ever fall in love again? Will I ever met someone? And the most damaging of all – I want him back. So I told him what I was thinking and got the thanks, but no thanks line. To add insult to injury, he thinks it will be easier if we don’t have any contact at all. Yep, he’s pretty sure about that!
In my heart, I know that we are better off apart. In the end there was too much pain and not enough good stuff. But I do miss him! We shared every moment together for almost 9 years and it’s so hard to turn off that switch. I miss being a couple, I miss having someone to laugh with and I miss someone who just gets me.
I also miss what could have been and the dreams that never eventuated and never will. I’d like to think that they are still there but for me to realise.
Hey, there are a few of us with broken hearts at the moment – perhaps we should be each other’s Valentines Day dates!
Oh hun ! I’ve been there … when you get that negative response … fuck it burns !
I’ll be your Valentine’s Day date for sure !
I am most definitely going through this also! Not that I want him back, more..will I ever fall in love again? And also I think I’ve forgotten what sex is!
Awww, I hear you on both points … but my self imposed Man Ban makes it easier to deal, you know, I don’t feel disappointed that I’m not getting any cos my expectation is that I won’t. xx
Damn TRS – you dig deep. Does it help to write about it? We have a good friend who left a violent partner 4 years ago. She has not had a long term relationship since. What she tells us is that sometimes you just want to have someone’s arms around you. Friends are not enough. That always makes me terribly sad.
Haha – it does actually – when I’m writing it makes me freakin depressed but after it’s written I does feel better!
This is a really thought provoking post Steph. For the first year or so after my marriage ended I missed the man I thought I should have been married to. He was the man I fell in love with but once we were married it began to change, slowly at first and then it picked up speed. I too missed all of what could have been – we could have had an amazing life but he didn’t want family life. And I quite simply couldn’t do anything right. If I lost weight, gained weight, kept the house spotless, didn’t do the housework, went to work, stayed at home, wore makeup, didn’t wear make up and the list goes on and on – I couldn’t win. So after about a year went by I realised that I was never married to the man I fell in love with and that was the man I would always miss.
The closest thing I’ve had to a relationship since was London and I still miss aspects of him, even though he was predominately a dick. I just miss that we had such a laugh together, and he stood up for me when things went bad at work, and he was so into me (at least in bed!).
But whilst I get gut wrenchingly lonely sometimes, I’m happy being single. I do want to meet someone but I’m not sure there is anyone else out there for me. Hard to accept sometimes but so be it. I’ve only had a couple of relationships (including being married) so maybe that’s why single is okay with me.
Now if I could just get through bloody Valentines Day!
Great post TRS, and all the girls comments, they all touch me,you all are wonderful womens at , I have being where you are right now, the only difference instead of enjoy my company, I did not know what to do with myself, and felt pretty lost, this was twenty five years ago, it took me long time to learn how to be with myself, I do not know if culture as anything to do with in , in Italy you are never alone, these days I would know what to do, I think is important to have good friends around that can give emotional support when things get hard, for anybody that need a shoulder to lean on, mine is avalable, this time alone it a great opportunity do not waist it like I did might not last long, and as you say yesterday ” you never know when love ……….”, to all of you I wish Love ,happines most of all peace, love to all ooxx
Will you be my Valentine?
xx
If course! very happy to be your Valentine or like the say in Italy Valentina how do you put modicon in? please tech me! I love modicons! love ooxx
And I still can’t work out for the life of me how to add an avatar. Help somebody!!
You got to register with worpress and them I forgot, I check and tell you later love ooxx
http://en.wordpress.com/signup/
I think the way it works is you sign up and get a wordpress account. Then you load an avatar and everytime you come to the blog it uses your avatar. Try that and if it doesn’t work I will try to find another answer for you!
x
Thank you! It totally worked
xx
Thanks for your help Susie and Wolloywally. I am not Louby2 as Louby was taken. x
I mean ‘now Louby2′…
Oh there you are!!!!!!!!!! Nice!
Thank you for your shoulder — I needed it and was very grateful when you offered
Things are finally better for me, I will offer mine to others now too.
Love to everyone, but especially to you, ww. xx
Glad I could be of help, anytime, and glad that things are good for you, thank you for your love, is appreciate a lot, love ooxx
Can I miss what I’ve never had?
I have always been single and have never been in love. I’ve had 2 “relationships” of about 6 months (one 20yrs ago and one last year), a couple of shorter liaisons and a few one night stands. Whilst I do really enjoy sex, I find casual sex to be a bit of a hollow experience so it is mostly a solitary pursuit. (Do you think the Guinness Book of Records has a category for the “world’s longest dry spell”?)
I’m pretty pragmatic about the whole being single thing. At some stage I think I yearned for the whole “happily ever after” thing, I don’t any more. Whilst I’ve kept my heart and mind open to possibilities, there is no guarantee that I will ever meet “the man for me” and the odds are definitely against that happening.
I’ve built a pretty good life for myself. I think you make your own happiness and although I have my down moments, I’m pretty happy overall. I have people around me whom I love and love me. I have seen a lot of the world (though more to see), have built a career, have a mortgage and am able to meet my material needs.
For now I’m just happy to work on being the “best version” of me that I can be, and see how it goes.
That’s awesome Weeze. I think that your independence is amazing and I envy you for it x
Weeze, I’ve always said that working on being the “best version” of you (and I use those EXACT words!!) is the best thing you can do to draw the right people to you.
I suppose it’s possible to long for what you’ve never had, but that could happen to anyone; there may well be many married/partnered people who wish for something more (or something else). It sounds like you are making the best of your life, and at the risk of sounding trite, hopefully if romantic love’s meant to happen for you, it will.
On a side note, there are lots of people who stay single in later life because they just can’t be bothered with those kinds of attachments and also because they get used to having things as they like them and don’t want to change. So you’re not alone and you sound like you’ve got yourself together as much as (if not more than) any of them!
Amazing post TRS.
I am in such a different place to you, but just wanted to say that I had an 18month “man ban” a very looong time ago now.
And I still think of it as one of the best things I ever did.
Not necessarily the most fun…but certainly one of the most rewarding.
Life is slowly teaching me that the most challenging things in life are often the best.
(Hello parenthood.)
This may well be a tough year for you in many ways but I think it will be an amazing one as well.
I hope so.
Oh you ladies have made me teary this morning. So much of your pain seems to be centred around the concept that love isn’t supposed to be like this. It’s supposed to be a simple case of meeting someone, falling head over heels and then living happily ever after. Unfortunately the last bit seems to bring people unstuck.
TRS I agree it would be so hard starting with a new partner all over again. So much history to dredge up. So many jokes they haven’t shared. And chances are, they’re not ‘the one’ anyway. It would be exhausting if you’re not quite ready, so I think your idea of looking after number one this year is a good one. You need to get yourself in a good place first.
Take care everyone. x
Sorry if this is extremely high on the cheese alert – but your comment reminded me of the saying about how you need to love yourself before you can love others… It’s something I really believe! xx
Wow. This post was so well written and so real, it made me cry.
I feel like I can relate to this so much – and yet, I’m not even really sure how because I’m only 22 and have had such different experiences…
I’ve been with the same person for seven and a half years – which at almost 23, is a fucking long time… We went to school together, worked in the same job during school, went to the same uni, worked in the same bar during uni… You get the drift.
I love him so much. Obviously. He’s such an amazing person – the kind of guy that people meet and instantly like. There’s something really open about him.
And yet… I’ve always wished I’d met him a little later in life. So many things would have been different. I feel like we did miss out on a lot because from the time we met, we became so close so quickly.
I got my crazy, stupid shit out of my system pretty young – which was both a fantastic and really shit thing. I did really self-destructive things at a really young age and a large part of the reason why I’ve calmed down now and just stopped doing crazy shit in general is because of him. If I had of met him later in life, I really don’t know how things would have turned out.
Would I have settled down and grown a brain on my own? Would I have found someone else to help settle me down? Would I have more girlfriends that I do, because I wouldn’t have had a guy to always turn to? Would I be closer with my guy friends? Would uni have been a different experience? Would I be able to stand on my own two feet more?
All of this got brought up for me about a week ago when my fiance told me he was going away for work for three days. I realised that the last time we’d been apart for three days and two nights was when I was 16 and he went on his grade 12 biology/geography camp…..
I guess the flipside to this YV is to imagine if you hadn’t met him at all? I think I know which option you’d choose. I’m sure you already reaslise this, but you are so lucky to have someone you obviously adore and who adores you. Don’t worry about what might have been, enjoy what you have.
x
what a beautiful comment. it’s great to get an insight into your story. and I relate a lot to what you say, even though my journey is a very different one.
that feeling though, that second guessing that creeps in, and has you inside out wondering what might have, should have, could have been.
it’s a bitch. because how do you know if it’s alarm bells telling you to do something drastic, or just human nature taunting you with “the grass is always greener”.
inside that mindset, it’s messy and hard to see straight.
So true you guys…
It’s definitely something I struggled with a lot a couple of years ago – exactly like you said OSL – I didn’t know whether it was alarm bells or greener grass syndrome.
I now know it’s just greener grass syndrome – it comes down to the fact that I am truly happy with him, I didn’t “settle” – it just so happened that the first person I fell in love with, it worked out well with… and we’ve been lucky enough to have our priorities and needs and wants stay on the same path as we’ve matured together…
I just need to try and remind myself of this more…
Louby – “Don’t worry about what might have been, enjoy what you have.” THANK YOU for writing that. I need to lay off the “what ifs”… They don’t do anyone any good at all. You’re right too… I am so lucky that I met him and that we have each other… Thank you.. I’m all teary xx
Hey YV, I’ve been with my man since we were both 19 – and we are now 43. In my early 20′s I had exactly the same questions about us and about myself. We had patches of time when we matured at different rates and a few times we were close to the end but – our bond is so strong, our friendship is wonderful and we feel “in love” just as much as the times we “just love” – if you know what I mean.
I used to wonder about the “what ifs’” – what if I had gone backpacking in my early 20′s, what if I had spent that year teaching in England, what if I had acted on some of the feelings of attraction I have had for other men over the years….
But, I don’t really do that so much now. I love him – he is my friend, my lover, my partner through life. We look after each other, we are strong.
I know where you are coming from YV – and it’s Ok
Thank you so so so much for writing that comment dramaqueen!!
It’s great to know that it’s not just me… and that it’s okay to feel how I do sometimes… and that people who tell me that “I’m missing out” for being in a serious relationship so young aren’t necessarily right.. and for reminding me that there are happy endings. Thank you! xx
No YV, it’s not just you. Like Drama Queen, I have been with Mr. G since 19. Life is NOT a bowl of cherries though, and when it gets rough, it’s very easy for me go hide inside myself and play the “What If” game. But the final round of the game is always “What if we weren’t together now?” We have Miss 10 together and well… It’s a tough one. I have never been single… it’s odd, but I yearn for that idea sometimes. I would have loved to have done some things I never got to do or ever will do because I have always had someone else in my life. When the going gets tough around here I often think it would be easier to be alone and I would be happier. But those times pass and our life for better or worse, goes on.
There are so many things about growing up and becoming an adult we just have to learn for ourselves. So many things our parents and elders can’t teach us. What makes us truly happy is one of those things, I think. Only we know what makes us happy. It’s somewhere deep inside. And it’s not always consistent – at least for me it changes. And we have to be brave enough to find out what it is and go for it. That is a very hard concept!
Thank you Ggirl!! xx
I know exactly what you mean… especially about having never been single… People always do a sort of double take about that.
I’m not sure if I’m cut out for the parent thing – but if we do go down that road one day, I wonder what I’ll tell my son/daughter? My parents always told me to relax and have a bit of fun and not get into a serious relationship too young.. and that a relationship should compliment your life, not BE your life… and yet I pretty much ignored all of that when I was younger… It’ll be tough I think..
gosh you’re so much more grown up than I was at your age! I still feel like a kid inside an adults life sometimes. I feel like I’m playing pretend.
I think you’ll be fine. One day at a time is my motto. Every day is different and a challenge. xox
Group hug!! xxxx
Oohhh Steph. Your writing sure makes us reach down inside ourselves and pull out all the crap we’ve been hiding! I’ve been seperated from MrBB now for almost 4 months. And I can honestly say, I don’t miss HIM. I don’t miss being his wife, I don’t miss living with him, sharing a bed..the sex had dried up a very long time ago, so I can hardly even remember what that was like…
But do you know what I missed? What made me so sad, so devastated that we had split? The “what could’ve/should’ve been”. I wanted to be the cute loving family with the 3 gorgeous kids, walking along the beach holding hands. I wanted my kids to come home to a loving mum and dad every day after school. I didn’t want my kids to be from a broken home. I wanted the perfect picture. I’d realised a long time ago that MrBB wasn’t my true love, but at the time I was prepared to just consider this my lot in life and put up with it. When MrBB started to get violent, I realised that I had to stop living in this dream and get the hell out of there. It was scary and devastating and horrible, but it had to be done.
Since we’ve been apart, I’ve been rediscovering who MissBenben is. I realised that I had stopped being who I am just to keep him happy. Of course I still long to be part of a relationship..the intimacy of a man and woman is a much needed part of adult life. But do I miss HIM? No. And I would rather be single and alone than married and lonely, if you know what I mean…
…..but by Golly Gosh I need me a good dose of Lovin’….!!!!
Hi Benita. Gosh, talk about parallel lives.
You sound exactly like me 3 years ago. That is exactly what I grieved over. Not the loss of my marriage. I stopped loving my ex husband a long time before I actually left.
What I really felt most sad about was the end of the dream. Sounds corny but I always wanted to have a family, a happy, healthy family. When I got married I was totally committed to the idea of happily ever after and that perfect little family unit.
I NEVER wanted my daughter to be from a broken home. I NEVER wanted to be divorced.
Thing is, I didn’t do the breaking. He did. Everytime he raised his hand to me, every time he verbally abused me, every time he lashed out at me he broke it a little more and a little more until there was nothing left.
I know I did my absolute best to avoid what happened but in the end, the choice I made means that maybe down the track I will get a chance at happily ever after.
Most importantly my daughter won’t see me living in an abusive, unhealthy marriage. She will know that it’s not acceptable for a man to treat a woman like that. THIS is a greater gift I give my daughter every day. Much greater than the illusion of a “happy”, “unbroken” home. You have done the same for your kids.
So glad to hear you are finding yourself again in all this. It took me a long time to get to that point so good on you for getting it together so well so quickly.
Around these parts we say you “NTGL” (need to get laid) by the way. Many of us do, believe me.
To both MissBB and Susie, I would say never give up the dream. It may not be perfectly attainable in real life, but it is the dream that makes us humans strive to improve our lot in life, and to generally advance the human race.
What a wonderful array of intelligent, available women there is out there, if only I was younger and a…………..
Wow. Congratulations for making that choice and for taking your daughter out of that situation.
I really hope that doesn’t come across as sounding contrived or condescending at all – I really mean it.. x
Oh sing it sista! I was also the “never going to get divorced” gal. I was a catholic; nobody in my ENTIRE family had divorced. I honored my vows and was determined to stay married no matter what. But I guess the time comes -and you know, it’s funny – I guess the verbal abuse had been going on for years, but I was all like “well at least he doesn’t hit me”, but then he DID start to hit me. It was time to go. Staying would be like telling my sons that this is how men treat women, and like telling my daughter that this is how you should be treated. I couldn’t do that to them.
What breaks my heart is how SO MANY of us have experienced this. I would never wish this on anybody, and if I could have one wish in life, it’s that my kids are spared this kind of heartache…
Thanks for this post Steph…*group hug*…
It breaks my heart too, to see so many of you out there with these terrible experiences. I would like to give you all a big hug too.
Hello MissBB,
I am so happy to read how you have come to terms with your life situation.
I agree TRS’s writing is forthright and thought-provoking, and generally rivetting – do you think it may have been helped by the therapy she has been having?
To so many of you smart ladies out there in these sad circumstances, I believe time will provide what you seek. May you have the patience to wait.
Great comment Gigdiary, there is lot of hope in it, good on you, you have a great big heart, love ooxx
Han, that makes me so sad…
How apt. I read this on the 1 year anniversary of the demise of my last relationship. Yes, “My Year without Sex”. I have really struggled to get over this person even though I knew throughout the whole thing that he wasn’t “the one”. He dumped me. Unceremoniously and without warning. I think this contributed to my inability to move on because I had no closure at all.
I’m sure if I had met someone in the last 12 months who I wanted to date (and who wanted to date me) I would have been able to move on a lot quicker.
So, in my experience, yes, definitely, having someone new helps you to move on. Otherwise I think it is just time….
This post really resonates with me. I could have written it. Exept i’m 10 years younger and currently married.
I allowed myself to enjoy the memories of connectedness and love as it helped me from feeling lost, and lonely.
Then when your married you cling to those fond memories of singleness and being free to do what you want and those special moments of joy you get from doing things alone.
I think it will be good for you to have a man free year. Embrace the good point of singleness- you’ll be clinging to those fond memories when you back in a relationship when your stuck watching football on a sunday afternoon.
oh god. I couldn’t agree more.